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Welcome to Lucid Planet, where we are going to, for the next hour, put forward some really important healing information that's going to inspire you to find solutions in your life.
This is a huge deal today. And what we're talking about is chronic and mystery illness, something that millions, possibly billions of people around the world are experiencing.
and to do this, I am really excited to welcome someone very special to the show today. His name
is Anthony William and his book, Medical Medium, has actually gone to number one on the New York
Times bestsellers list. And he, in case you haven't heard of Anthony, he was basically born
with the unique ability to converse with a high-level spirit who provides him extraordinarily
accurate health information. Often that's far ahead of its time or far ahead of what science
is actually telling us. When he was four years old, he shocked his family when he announced at
the dinner table that his symptom-free grandmother had lung cancer. And sure enough, medical testing
soon confirmed the diagnosis. So he has devoted his life to this for over 25 years, really helping
people to overcome and prevent illness and discover the lives they were meant to live.
And again, like I said, this is several decades ahead of scientific discovery.
He takes a very compassionate approach and he looks at well-being on every level.
And we know from past Lucid Planet radio shows, this is so important, not just physical health, but the holistic picture, spiritual, mental, emotional.
really his success rates have been unprecedented and that has really earned him as the medical
medium the trust and the love of thousands of people worldwide movie stars rock stars billionaires
professional athletes authors people from all walks of life because obviously we're all important
not just the famous ones but it's still incredibly impressive to see these results and so really
Anthony is an invaluable resource to doctors who are helping to solve really difficult cases.
And of course, you can check out his book now, Medical Medium.
So let's welcome Anthony to the show.
Welcome.
Great being here.
I'm excited.
Wonderful.
Wonderful to have you here.
This is something, I guess the question, let's start at the beginning because I'm sure there's
people out there who are hearing this and they're like, medical medium.
You know, I'm a scientist, but I'm a very open-minded person.
And I have had experiences in my life that really have defied explanation, particularly when it even comes to my health.
My partner, for example, could see inside of my uterus and he told me my uterus looked like a bunch of grapes.
And all of the scans at UCLA and everything told me I was fine.
And then I ended up in surgery.
And when the doctors took out my uterus, they told me verbatim, your uterus looked like a bunch of grapes.
so you know i've i've uh yeah crazy so i've actually experienced this that there really
is something to health and healing beyond what science and all of our diagnostics can understand
but maybe you could explain to our audience who hasn't heard of this um how does your gift work
what is what is it to be a medical medium you know what happened really is at age four i woke
up one morning and heard a voice perfectly clear just like you and i are talking right now just
like everybody's hearing us right now. And that voice was with me right then and there and said,
would be with me for the rest of my life. And what happened is at the dinner table,
the voice told me to walk over to my grandmother, put my hand on her and to pronounce that she had
lung cancer. So I had to say, grandmother has lung cancer. Grandma has lung cancer. And
that's where it all started. A few weeks later, they brought her in there. She didn't even exhibit
it a symptom or anything or a sign of it. She was fine. But they brought her in out of curiosity,
family, and she was. She had lots of lung cancer. In fact, it didn't just end there. It didn't end
at that point. It kept on going. So no matter where I was or who I was around, the voice would
tell me what was going on. And it led into having to do this. I was forced into this. So it wasn't
Like I could make any other decision or say, hey, I want to go this this way or I want to do that.
I had to only do this.
And and it never stopped, meaning the information comes through and it just it just always does.
And it provided that information is providing me opportunities to help people and give people what they need throughout the decades to get people to heal and move forward.
And that's what I've always done.
So that's where it started.
That's amazing.
so just to clarify you can't turn the voice off can't turn it off it's not i'm not channeling
some people say well he's he maybe he's channeling or something like that and and and even when people
channel they can still live their life you know normal they can still go on vacations do what they
want go do this go whatever and communicate with people really easily with me the the voice doesn't
stop because it's not channeling it's from the outside it's an outside source and it just it no
matter what, it's something that just hasn't gone away yet. Wow. Does it make it hard for you to be
like in relationships and around people? Well, you know, it basically over the years I've,
I've, you know, let people know that it privately been in my life about this voice and how it works
and everything when I was younger. And, you know, and it wasn't, it wasn't easily accepted back then.
And now it's, it's more easily accepted. You know, so it's, so I, and with technology now I can,
you know, I can explain this like I am now and talk about how it works. But, you know, growing
up with it was really difficult. Absolutely. Because, you know, when I was in the classroom
in elementary school and spirit, which the voice they call spirit, told me that my classmate next
to me had meningitis. And I told the teacher and no one believed me right there. The teacher asked
the child and the child said, I don't know what that even means. I never heard of meningitis.
And so it and then the child went home that night and next day teacher found out the child had meningitis and was in the hospital all night.
So it was in like it was always that kind of thing.
It would always surprise people, of course, can be really intense.
And when I was younger, I would actually, you know, tell people what was going on.
I would I would grab onto shirt sleeves and tell people, hey, they had a brain tumor.
And, you know, it would it would it would be like that all the time.
When I got older, I learned not to tap on shoulders anymore and tell people they had diabetes.
So, you know, you just you just kind of worked with it.
And then then shortly after that, just made it into a life I had to make it into.
I had no choice.
So that's the.
Yeah.
Wow.
So really, it's more like you don't you only if people ask you, you'll tell them.
But yeah, I won't jump ahead anymore.
Yeah.
And unless the person's, you know, open to it or so forth.
So I won't be on like I won't be on a plane and tell people what's going on with them.
You know what I mean?
People I don't know.
So and exactly.
And that but the information comes through nonstop no matter what.
So if I am on a plane and there's, you know, 150 people walking, you know, down the aisle slowly, spirit will tell me what's going on with everybody walking down the aisles.
It's also it's also exhausting and it's never ending.
So that's that's it must be so intense, but also kind of interesting, I guess.
I mean, it's your gift. You know, you know, your gift is so obvious and it's there and it really has the power to transform lives. And that's very inspiring.
It has. I've been very lucky to be able to help people. That's that's it's you know, that's my purpose. It's why I'm here. I want people to get better. I want people to heal with the amount of suffering that we have here. It's overwhelming. And yes, the information has been very good and has helped so many.
Thank you. And, you know, your book is just blowing up right now. And I got a review copy of it. And I think it's fantastic and goes through some really like deep themes, but is also very accessible. And I guess my question to you is, what was your intention in writing the book? Just two minutes before we go into the break. So just, you know, one of the intentions was to for people to know that autoimmune isn't your body attacking itself. It's one of the great mistakes being made right now in medicine, both conventional and
and alternative. You know, some people say, well, maybe you just don't like conventional medicine.
You only like alternative. That's not true. You know, there's a there's a place for everything.
And in conventional medicine is, you know, there's so much great technology. It's amazing.
You know, they're all neurosurgeons can remove, you know, aneurysms out of people's brains with
robots right now. You know, so it's really incredible. So we're really lucky to have that.
But in chronic illness and autoimmune, there's a mistake being made on both sides, both conventional
and alternative. And the mistake, it's one of the great mistakes, I call it. And that's,
you know, telling people that your body's attacking itself just because we don't have
answers to what creates autoimmune or meaning illnesses and a set of symptoms. We blame it on
the person's body. This has been a great mistake that's occurred. We should talk about it a little
bit more too. Oh my gosh. I cannot wait to hear more because, you know, like we were just saying
at the start, I have Hashimoto's. I've never actually been officially diagnosed with Hashimoto's,
but it just came out of your mouth. So I believe it. I didn't have hypothyroid, you know, but it
was like never anyway. So, but we're going to talk, this is something that's really important
to me and I've been struggling and learning, you know, as, as I'm trying to treat myself. And I
know there's a lot of our listeners out there who have autoimmune issues. So yes, we will definitely
talk about this as soon as we come back from the break. So let's do that now. This is Lucid Planet
Radio with Dr. Kelly. And when we come back, Anthony Williams, medical medium, and I are
going to get into all kinds of mystery illnesses and really what they mean, how to solve them,
and how you can help yourself to be more healthier. So stay with us and we'll be right back.
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I am here with Anthony Williams, medical medium, and we are talking about mystery illness,
chronic illness, understanding kind of a new paradigm for treating illness, maybe beyond
what both conventional medicine and alternative medicine is teaching us.
And for those of you who want to get in touch with Anthony, could you please give your contact info and your website and your social media to everyone so they can learn more about you?
Sure. Medicalmedium.com. Just go there and you'll see the book there or you can find the book anywhere, really.
It's out there in the bookstores and so forth.
And so, yeah, look for it.
Um, and, um, I go into, you know, detailed information about everything from, you know,
fibromyalgia to, to multiple sclerosis, to rheumatoid arthritis, to Hashimoto's thyroiditis,
you name it.
And it's information that's never been out there before.
So, so just, you know, look forward wherever you find at medical medium.com.
There you go.
And, you know, healing is such a, it's, it's really a process that happens on so many levels
and something that I know has been really hard for a lot of people who've had chronic illness
or been chronically sick, um, when you have, or having a mystery illness, um, when, when you're
sick and you don't know what it is and you keep getting sicker and nothing gets you better,
it kind of beats you down, doesn't it? Yeah. Well, Kelly, I mean, Hashimoto's thyroiditis
is a mystery illness. It's actually a mystery. There's really, they, they didn't know what
caused it starting in 1912, they still don't know now. I don't care who did what or wrote a book or
put information out there on the internet. No one still knows what causes it. And so it's a mystery
illness. I mean, you know, I talk about what causes it, the real true cause, uh, in the book
and everything, you know, and also in, in, uh, my radio show, my radio show too and stuff. So I,
I released that information, but the point is it's still a mystery illness and the alternative
and conventional world.
And so is rheumatoid arthritis.
So is fibromyalgia.
So is CFS, you know, chronic fatigue syndrome
and different variations of chronic fatigue syndrome.
They're all mystery illness.
And you can go down the line,
eczema and psoriasis, mystery illness,
migraines, mystery illness.
Just keep on going and going and going
all the way down to different sets of symptoms
to diabetes, mystery illness,
to neuropathy, mystery illness.
And you keep on going down,
Lyme disease, mystery illness.
And, you know, I'll tell you right now
is that mystery illness isn't just the eight kids
in Idaho that fell down with a fever and, or the six kids in Colorado mysteriously fell
ill.
And a set of doctors in a, you know, medical clinic didn't know really what was going on.
They tagged it mystery illness.
First of all, it's, it's all mystery practically.
And this is one of the great mistakes.
As I was telling you before, there's these, there's these great mistakes.
And I say that and I repeat that because they really are.
One of them is mystery illness.
And we get these labels so that we feel like something's moving forward.
But you know what?
When I run into moms that can't believe 25 years later their daughter has what they have and it's still a mystery with no answers.
And, you know, this is serious.
So, you know, and so when, you know, multiple sclerosis, mystery illness, we can keep on going all day long.
So until we're open and honest and we come out of medical denial, if we don't come out of medical denial, you know, when someone's addicted to something, whatever it is, they're addicted to TV or they're like me or watch, I don't know, a show, you know.
But if they're addicted to something, whatever that is, a food or alcohol or a drug or whatever it is, if someone's addicted, in order to move forward with that addiction, you have to come out of denial or you're not going to get help.
That's the first thing, especially with an alcohol addiction.
Just say you've got to get help.
Well, medical denial, unless someone steps forward, unless the movement steps forward and actually says this is a mystery and we're sorry we didn't let you know.
We're sorry we didn't tell you that we don't know why your thyroid's inflamed.
We still don't know why.
So what we're going to do is we're going to make something up called autoimmune,
and we're going to blame your body,
and we're going to say your body's immune system is destroying your own thyroid
so that it covers everybody's back.
That's another mistake in mystery illness, and that's the autoimmune thing.
the whole autoimmune thing came about because no one knows what causes these symptoms. Nobody
knows what causes colitis. That's a mystery illness because nobody knows what causes colitis.
It's your body attacking itself. When no one knows what causes celiac, it's your body attacking
itself. Nobody knows what's causing your thyroid problem. And because of this, we're still,
we're in the dark ages. This is no joke. And people say to me, Kelly, oh, you sound a little
extra passionate about this. Yeah. Let me tell you something. When you're suffering and you can't get
out of bed and take care of your kids and you got three kids and you can't take care of them because
you're sick with fatigue and no one has answers. And, you know, and Kelly, people say, people say,
well, where's all your science then? Well, why don't you, why don't you ask that to the woman
who can't get out of bed and take care of her children? Why don't you ask her where the science
is? Why don't you ask her doctor where the science is when she's been to 15 doctors and still can't
function or heal and take care of her family and feed her family. Why don't you throw around that
science then? So I don't want to hear it from anyone because I've seen people suffer and lose
their lives, their careers, their jobs, their relationships, their fiancés, their girlfriends,
their boyfriends, because when they feel ill, when they fell ill and it's mysterious, whatever that
is, and they got that fatigue and they're not feeling good and their life starts falling apart.
what about that? And that's what I care about right there. It's not about any crap. Like,
where's the science or something? You tell me where the science, they still don't know
what causes Hashimoto's thyroiditis. So why don't you tell me what that's about?
So it's really, this is a serious thing going on. We have 200 million people in America alone,
Kelly, that don't feel good. And it's all mystery and mystery symptoms. And until the movement says,
hey, yes, we can do a heart transplant. Yes, we can remove your gallbladder when it explodes.
Yes, we can take your appendix out if it ruptures, but we don't know anything about 90% of the other
chronic illness. Do you think a time will come? What's it going to take for the establishment to
catch up? If you believe in lifetimes, if you believe in lifetimes, we come back or something,
we die and we come back. If you believe in that, well, maybe if I die and come back three or four
times. You got a good sense of humor. Right? No, I mean, I feel you. I've gone through the
frustration and I've been through on both sides, both myself and my partner of getting these mystery
illnesses and seeing what it does to your relationship. I mean, my partner, he's just
been diagnosed with Lyme disease. He's been going to doctors for 20 years and being told that he's
fine. Oh, that's another thing. Yeah. I mean, if you start out with, Hey, it's all in your head,
dude exactly telling you kelly you must i think you're crazy kelly because i don't think there's
anything wrong with you i think you've made everything up and i think you know i think
and i think your boyfriend's made everything up i you know maybe you guys just want attention
yeah i mean that's no listen that's what's been told to people that's what's been told people
it's been told to me like when my uterus my uterus had hundreds of tumors in it and i went to several
different doctors and they were like oh you just have heavy flow you're fine everything will be
fine like I went to so many doctors and then eventually the anemia almost killed me and I
had to have emergency surgery four pints of blood and pull the whole organ out and I knew there was
something wrong and I went from doctor to doctor and they told me I was fine and that's really
it's traumatizing and it's scary you know and it is same with my boyfriend his finally they his
mom was taking him from doctor to doctor and she was like, look, this has got to be in your head.
We don't know what else we can do. Yeah. And you know, the thing is, Kelly, it's not the doctor's
fault. I mean, we need doctors. That's the whole point. We need them. We can't actually, this world
would not function without doctors and medicine. So we need doctors. It has nothing to do with
the doctors. It has, it's bigger than that. It's bigger than that. And so it's, it's,
the information's just not there. Yeah. So how, I guess like the next question is,
how do people who are looking for this information, how do they, do they need to,
we only have a couple of minutes to the break, but what I, I guess what I'm wondering is like,
do I need to try to convince someone in my life that this is true? Like, or do I just need to go
about my healing? Like, do I need to sell this to my friend who's sick or my parents or my partner?
Is there a way I can do that? Or are they just going to meet me with that skeptical attitude
because it violates their worldview.
Well, you know what it is.
If you're not, it all depends on how sick you've been
and how long it's been you've been sick.
You know, it all depends.
Everybody has a breaking point
where they're tired of doctor shopping
and they're ready for answers.
Yeah, absolutely.
You know, and some people don't need any time.
They just want to feel better and they want answers.
They want things that make sense.
You know, they want, I mean, you know,
it's like the medical medium book,
the information that's in there, it makes sense to people. And that's the whole point. You know
what I mean? Maybe my gift doesn't make that much sense to some people, you know, and I don't expect
that anyway to, you know, to make total sense, you know, and it's just been like that. You know,
I'll tell you what happened when, well, you got to go to break anyway. I'll just run you out of
time. Oh, you're good. I mean, this is the thing. And I guess this is what my feeling is. There's
so much in this world that doesn't make sense. And like you mentioned, it's about recovering
from this denial because we have for some reason, like when it comes to spirituality and science
and the unknown, we have like this very rigorous set of criteria that only things that meet this
empirical criteria are allowed to be true. But then in other areas of our lives, there's so many
things that don't make any sense. And we just kind of accepted at face value, because we haven't been
told that we need to have this like stringent criteria for it. And so I guess what I'm saying
is like, maybe it's time to just recognize that we can find healing it, but we have to be willing
to open our minds a little bit, and to give something a try. And the reality is, if people
buy your book, and it doesn't work, it's like, okay, so so you invested some time reading a book,
which is probably good for you anyway. I mean, you're not asking them to, you know, you're not
asking for all the stuff from them.
You know, it's not really that they've experiment.
Yeah, exactly.
People don't have 10 years to wait anymore.
I think, you know, you wait one year and it's too much.
You know, you wait 20 years.
There's people that have waited a long time for answers,
a long time for information to help them, you know,
and it's, hey, look, no one still knows to this day
until I brought it to surface.
Like I've been trying to bring this to surface
for the last so many years,
is that Epstein-Barr is the cause of Hashimoto's thyroiditis.
You know, thyroiditis is caused by Epstein-Barr.
It's that mono bug.
So when you get mono when you're younger, it goes away.
It comes back as Hashimoto's later on.
And the medical community still don't know this today.
This is information that I brought that's finally getting out there that comes from me.
And it always has going all the way back.
So that's a piece of information right there that can help so many.
And, you know, Epstein-Barr comes back later and causes tingles and numbness, causes aches and pains, hot flashes, heart palpitations, different forms of neuropathy.
We need to talk more about this after the break because I have all of those things.
And I thought I was just menopausal, but now you got me thinking about it.
Oh, my goodness.
It's not menopausal, though.
It's not.
All right. Well, when we come back from the break, I will be here with medical medium Anthony Williams talking way more about autoimmune and thyroiditis and potential underlying causes. So stick with us and we will be right back.
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welcome back to lucid planet radio with dr kelly and i am here with anthony williams medical medium
And we are having a fascinating discussion today about the mysterious illnesses and chronic illnesses and how there might be information out there that science doesn't have yet that can help us understand why so many of us are sick and we're not getting better through the traditional channels.
So, hi, Anthony. How are you?
Good. It's good to be here.
It's great to have you here.
When we left for the last break, we started by talking about Epstein-Barr.
Yes.
Yeah, I would love to hear more about that.
fibromyalgia caused by Epstein-Barr, this literally is the bug that takes the blame for,
hey, it's your hormones. Hey, it's menopause, perimenopause. Hey, it's all in your head and
you're just trying to get attention. No, that's me. Seriously, people have suffered a long time
from post-Epstein-Barr symptoms. The problem is one of the greatest medical blunders of all
time is no one knows how there's not technology yet to take a test an epstein-barr test for post
epstein-barr meaning meaning if you get an epstein-barr test they'll see that you've had it
in the past but there's no test showcasing it's still active in a different way you know in the
book i talk about the different stages epstein-barr has the first stage is it just being in the body
the second stage is it turning into mononucleosis and you don't have to remember your mononucleosis
It could have been a very mild one.
You could have had a headache and a sore throat for a week, and that was it.
And some people remember their mono.
They were diagnosed with mono.
That's the second stage.
The third stage later on in life, when we get kind of deficient and we get stressed and everything else that happens years later, we get the thyroid problem.
That's when Epstein-Barr enters into the thyroid.
And then instead of understanding it's Epstein-Barr, we're told it's our body attacking itself and sending us home.
So we drive home thinking our body is destroying itself.
This is a massive mistake, major mistake.
So that's – and then after that, you can get different kinds of nerve sensitivities like I'm saying, all different kinds of symptoms like I said earlier.
And this is all Epstein-Barr.
But it's not understood.
Nobody knows this at all.
As far as we are, Epstein-Barr gives you mono, causes a little fatigue, goes away.
That's it.
That's all we know.
So finally, we're bringing it to light so people can finally heal.
And it has to happen.
And lupus is basically symptoms caused by a variety of Epstein-Barr.
And Epstein-Barr, Kelly, has 60 varieties.
So they're mutated varieties.
And science is so far behind.
When I say that this is ahead of science, it is because science doesn't even realize there's more than one variety of Epstein-Barr at this point.
And it's mutated over the last 100 years.
It started over 100 years ago.
It's mutated.
It's what started the whole hormonal movement in 1950 because the first round of stage three, stage four Epstein-Barr occurred in women's lives back in 1950.
And the medical world is totally overwhelmed.
Couldn't, you know, just all these women saying we have all these symptoms.
And that's when the crazy syndrome started where all the doctors in 1950 just said, you're crazy.
Join the PTA.
Yeah.
This is when it all started.
And then because there was some cocaine and some meth and go.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then the pushback was so hard from so many women feeling sick for the first time in history with chronic illness that the medical establishment, the medical world said, well, we think it's your hormones.
We don't know what else it could be. And that was the birth of the menopause movement, meaning symptoms of menopause, because prior 1945, prior 1945, 1950, menopause didn't provide symptoms besides your period stopped and you felt better.
those were the symptoms by the way going back before and now now what happens so this is a
whole nother thing that's going on so we're in this incredible medical denial people are suffering
no one's getting answers they don't know what's causing their fibromyalgia we just throw a label
on it oh it's fibromyalgia unknown oh it's i mean that one that would even i'm just like come on
people like it's a series of symptoms where you feel tired and achy and bad but we don't really
know what it is or what causes it and there's all different versions of it it's like come on guys
expect us to believe that's a real thing obviously there's something else going on so yeah so kelly
we're told our body's destroying itself what you know with the term autoimmune and it's not so
anybody's listening to this just you keep a light heart and you realize your body's working for you
your body loves you unconditionally it's not out to hurt you if you do have hashimoto's that's
epstein-barr getting into the thyroid it's a virus that's affecting the thyroid not your body
Your body is working hard on defending itself from the virus.
This is a natural process to help you.
And, you know, and that's all part of it.
And it's just giving people something to go on there so that they don't think their body's against them.
And that's this is this is how it works.
So if there's these.
So this is a virus.
Can we kill the virus?
Like I know there's all these natural antiviral foods like garlic or turmeric, that kind of stuff.
Would that help?
Foods are foods are powerful.
They just are.
Eating better food matters.
Absolutely.
There's antiviral foods.
You should have garlic in the diet if you like garlic.
Cilantro is important.
Heavy metals tend to feed viruses such as Epstein-Barr.
So you want cilantro in the diet.
You want spirulina in the diet.
You want the Hawaiian spirulina in the diet.
This is important.
These foods are really critical.
And you want things like onions and asparagus is a great weapon against Epstein-Barr.
So you want these foods.
Wild blueberries, frozen wild blueberries is incredible for pulling out metals and taking metals away from Epstein-Barr.
Why does Epstein-Barr like metal?
It's one of its food sources.
Oh, gotcha.
It likes metals and it likes eggs as another food source.
It's another food source it likes.
So it loves eggs.
And people say, well, you don't like eggs.
That's not true.
It's not that I don't like eggs.
It's not it.
It's not about what I like.
so it's not about hey this is my belief system or hey here's my i adopted this belief system or
hey i looked and found this new found you know trend that's going on that's not that's not what
i do it's about what spirit knows it's about the information that spirit knows to give people and
what and and that's how i've had the success that i've had sure i mean well it's just weird i've
always eaten eggs my whole life like my parents would feed me eggs every day for breakfast and
That'll grow ovarian cysts.
Yeah, which I did have.
I did have those removed when I had my emergency hysterectomy three years ago.
They did find ovarian cysts and they were like, oh, the benefit is when we cut you open, we found these cysts.
So we took those out too.
And I was like, great.
You know, a whole thing about PCOS, the worst food you could ever eat ever in history with PCOS is eggs.
But what happens?
Women are told to eat eggs.
They're specifically told to eat eggs with PCOS.
Oh, gosh, really?
Yeah, so this is an example of how far we are.
We're so far behind, and that's what's going on.
Gosh, it's sad.
It's funny because about four or five years ago, I just completely stopped eating eggs.
They started making me feel sick every time I ate them.
So you were intuitively connecting.
Well, I wonder.
See, when you say that, I wonder if that's possible.
But that doesn't explain like my consumption of, I don't know, sugar and cake and all the
cookies that, you know, that's that I intuitively know I should stop you.
Yeah, I have to stop you from eating all those cakes and cookies.
That's not good.
Oh my gosh.
It was my birthday this last weekend and my friends bought me this amazing like chocolate
mousse cake.
And anyway, and I was like, oh, it's my birthday.
Of course, like there's still half the cake in the fridge and I keep going back and like
eating tiny slivers off of it, which I think is almost worse than just eating it all at once.
It's like eating it for days at a time. So it just keeps coming in, you know, and then I'm like,
sugar. Anyway, yeah, I know this is like, it has to go. It has to go. It is not good. And
you made a great argument in the book about this, that, you know, you might eat that piece of
chocolate cake and think to yourself, well, you know, it's bad for my waistline, but whatever.
But what if you knew that it was going to take years off your life? Would you still eat that
piece of chocolate cake? I think that's a really powerful question. Well, you know what it is also,
you know, the funny thing is it's like fruit. There's a whole fruit fear out there. Everybody's
afraid of fruit because there's sugar in fruit, but people will still give in and they'll eat a
piece of cake, but not a piece of fruit. No, it's true. No, I mean, no. And hey, look, I'm not saying
that that's like, you know, a terrible thing, I guess, but I'm just saying that, that, that there's
so much fruit fear, but that people are so afraid of fruit now that they'll eat, they'll, they'll
stay off of everything. I mean, any carbs will stay off of sugar. And then we'll know they'll
give in because what they needed was some fruit in their diet and then they'll give in and they'll
eat something really bad. Oh, totally. Well, my favorite are like this, the soup people that are
like super on point with their diet, but then they're like drinking and smoking cigarettes.
And I'm like, okay, like, you know, we see less of that. I mean, I live in Colorado and you know,
it's a super healthy place and yes, they like their craft beers, but, and their, and their pot,
but it's a super healthy lifestyle type of place. And, um, so it's good. It's good to be around
that, but I do know a lot. I knew a lot of people that they'll eat super healthy and take all of
Well, you know, that reminds me, that reminds me of like the back of the day, back of the sixties
and seventies when everybody was doing cocaine, meaning like when it was first, like going through
the scene in the sixties, what they used to do was they would, they would take a whole bunch of
vitamin C when they were off the cocaine. So they would just go on like three, four straight days of
tons of vitamin C and then they go back on the cocaine. It was basically balanced and trying to
balance it out. It's like you can eat healthy and then you're drinking and smoking, you know?
Yeah. This doesn't count as moderation in my opinion. Anyway, um, we thank you, Anthony,
though, for that. And when we come back, we are going to wrap up this show with medical medium.
And we'll talk more about, I think, nutrition and diet and healing and how to kind of like allow
yourself to overcome the trauma of being ill so that you can heal. So stick with us and we will
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Welcome back to Lucid Planet Radio with Dr. Kelly.
And I am here with Anthony Williams Medical Medium.
We have been having such an awesome discussion about kind of healing ourselves and understanding
the mysteriousness of so many of the illnesses and really recognizing that maybe we don't
know as much as we think we know.
But there are proactive steps that we can make in our own lives.
And I think that's really important.
And one of those is with diet.
Yeah, absolutely.
Diet and nutrition.
And Anthony, I got to say, I love your Facebook page.
It's like one of my favorites.
And I know you have like over a million followers or something.
Insane.
Oh, my goodness.
And a bunch of my friends always like and post your stuff.
And what I love is how you feature different fruits and veggies.
And you talk about the healing properties of different foods and herbs.
And I think that that's something that just really brightens your day, my day at least when I see it.
Well, you know, you got to realize that in a lifetime, on the average, Kelly, we eat 80,000 meals in a lifetime.
Does 80,000 sound like a big number to you?
Because that's not a big number.
That sounds like a lot of meals, no?
That sounds like a lot of meals in someone's lifetime.
80,000 meals?
It's like, okay, that's it.
Okay, I hear you.
That's true.
Right?
Does $80,000 sound a lot?
Yeah, it does.
Does 80...
It does sound like a lot.
$80,000 sounds a lot. And then there's, you know, 80,000 grains of rice sound a lot.
What about 80,000, you know, kernels of popcorn or whatever? So the whole point is,
it's not a lot in a lifetime. Okay. And then what happens when you didn't eat good for 40,000
of those meals in your lifetime and you got like 30 or 40,000 left, then they better be good.
They better be good. We have to, we have to turn it around with our foods. You know, it's,
it's critical. So, um, you know, the same old, same old thing. It's like fruits and vegetables,
fruits and vegetables. No, it's more than that. It's, it's about getting enough of them in certain
kinds. You know, asparagus is critical. Like I was talking about before artichokes, these are
really critical for getting the liver back. Everybody's livers are just going just like,
why do you think we're getting diabetes? Like we are, that's from the liver,
not just the pancreas, the livers. All the livers are getting fatty liver,
pre-fatty liver. That's all we got in this country right now. Stagnant liver, sluggish liver.
You want to get romaine lettuce. You want celery juice. If there's anything, if there's a takeaway
today, it's what I started many years ago because of spirit. It's the 16 ounces of celery juice.
You juice 16 ounces of straight celery juice. I love celery juice. That's one of my favorites.
And I don't mean celery. I don't mean celery, apple, ginger,
I don't mean that.
I'm talking about just celery juice and your life can change because the
mineral salts and celery juice bring back the liver and the hydrochloric acid
in the stomach.
And you're not going to get that from putting in every single thing from
putting in turmeric and ginger and everything else you want to put in your
juice. And you have three stalks of celery. That's not going to do it.
If there's a takeaway here and you'll see, I mean, my,
My members group, my Facebook group, my Instagram, people are doing the celery juice and it's changing their lives.
And it always has.
So you do 16 ounces of celery juice every single morning and it's a game changer.
It doesn't mean you can't have juices, Kelly, of different juices, but you have to have at least that one.
So how many – is that like a full – kind of like a full thing of celery?
It depends on how big the whole head of celery is.
Some of them are smaller.
Some of them are wispy and thin.
And, you know, so you just got to gauge it.
And some are really huge.
So you can do like half, half will make that juice.
Cool. And so you said on an empty stomach first thing in the morning?
Yeah. Or somewhere in the mid morning.
And if you can't do it, then you try to do it another time.
If you can't do empty stomach, you just do the best you can.
You go to a juice bar and you say all celery, please.
And you're going to be the only one asking that.
I guarantee you.
And that juice bar is going to be like, never heard that before.
Everybody wants their spinach and their beets and their carrots in there.
What do you mean?
And so, but it's a major game changer to bringing back health and turning things around, especially if you're viral, especially if you're dealing with all the different illnesses that I talk about that I haven't that I talk about in the book Medical Medium.
This is this is one thing to take away.
Wow.
I mean, that's fantastic.
Are you are you also a believer in like the superfoods?
Well, yeah, of course.
I mean, frozen wild blueberries, because you can only get them frozen unless you're in a field somewhere in the middle of the summer and you're picking them.
Other than that, frozen wild blueberries is actually the most powerful superfood on the planet.
There's nothing in the jungle that can touch it.
There's nothing out there that holds the power of the wild blueberry at all.
So yeah, so that's another way to bring back your liver, bring back your nervous system, help with all the different symptoms, clean up the system, help the spleen come back, you name it.
That's an incredible food.
Wow. Is it from the antioxidants?
That's one thing.
Basically, there's hundreds of undiscovered phytochemicals in wild blueberries because we've only singled out a few.
So, okay, 100 years from now, we're going to know what's in them.
Yeah.
We don't know what the sun gives us right now.
We have no idea.
So you want to talk science?
Let's talk science for a second.
What, vitamin D?
That's what the sun gives us?
That's all we got?
No, I don't know.
Are you a believer in-
You know, I mean, don't get me wrong.
Heart transplants are amazing right now.
Liver transplants are really awesome.
Got life-saving medicine in so many ways.
We got people in the field.
Don't get me wrong, but we don't know anything about what the sun gives us.
Yep, that's true.
It feels really good, though.
I will say that.
And I miss it. I live in Colorado. It's snowing a lot. I miss the sun. But anyway, feels good.
Do you feel like it's good to take supplements? Like I take fish oil, I take vitamin D, vitamin B,
or is it better to get this from your food or?
Vitamin B12 is critical. Everybody's deficient in it. Even someone who has a normal vitamin B12
range in their blood test and the blood work is still deficient because that doesn't mean that
that blood test for vitamin B12 is antiquated. It's also in the dark ages because you have to
understand something. That blood test doesn't determine what organ needs B12. That blood test
doesn't determine how much B12 your nervous system needs and what kind of B12. Is it adenosilcobalamin?
Is it methylcobalamin? Which kind? We are so lost. And I'm not saying this in some egomatic way,
although you know it sounds that way not really you're okay it what it is it's about making sure
people can move forward and heal because that's what matters the b12 is critical and so you want
the adenosylcobalamin too you gotta you know you go to your practitioner you go to your naturopath
yeah you go to your doctor and you get the adenosylcobalamin yeah but of course i mean i've
And I know the methylcobalamin, adenosylcobalamin, is that?
I waited decades for adenosylcobalamin to actually be developed.
Spirit and I have been waiting patiently.
And so finally it's developed and now we can push it.
We've only been able to talk about it privately, Spirit and I, before it came out.
Now we're able to push it because it exists.
And that's going to help people with their nervous systems.
It's going to help people with neurological Lyme.
It's going to help people with neurological MS, neurological everything.
It's that adenosilcobalamin.
Awesome.
If your doctor's not on that yet, it's only because it's too new and it's going to take
five or six years before most practitioners even know about adenosilcobalamin.
So it's going to take time.
But yes, that's a big takeaway here to get people better.
Awesome.
Well, I think that's amazing.
Do you have any, we have like two minutes left, any closing thoughts for people on what
they can be doing in their own lives to try to overcome these mystery illnesses?
Number one, just listen to your loved ones.
Listen to your friends that are dealing with it.
That's number one.
Listen to them.
Another one, too, is listen to yourself.
Number three, have compassion for yourself.
That's critical.
You have to have compassion.
Loving yourself is not enough.
And loving, because love, things that we love, we fall out of love with.
Hey, I used to love that Ferris wheel ride in the park.
Don't love it anymore.
I used to love the roller coaster.
No, I don't really love it that much anymore.
You know, compassion's another story.
You have to have love and compassion.
Both of those go together.
You have to have compassion for yourself.
It's more powerful than loving yourself.
And that's, you have to have that compassion
because then you can forgive yourself.
Then you can heal.
Then you can move forward.
Then you can get past the guilt of being sick
because it's forced, all that guilt's pushed on us.
We're told it's our fault.
One more thing.
It's not your fault you have Epstein-Barr.
It's not your fault that you have shingles.
It's not your fault that you have these different bugs and these different problems and these
different symptoms.
It's not your fault that you are fatigued and it's hard to function.
You didn't cause it.
Make sure you know that, that you didn't create your problems, you didn't create your illness,
and that's something you have to know in order to heal.
And I talk about that in the book too.
That's amazing.
Well, you guys, thank you so much, Anthony Williams, for coming on the show.
And of course, you can buy his book, Medical Medium.
I'm sure you can find it everywhere as well as on his website, medicalmedium.com, New York Times bestseller.
Really awesome piece of literature.
And just thank you so much for coming on the show.
Really sharing all this wonderful healing information.
Yeah, it's been wonderful.
Awesome being here.
You know, everybody just take care and blessings and we love you over here.
Much blessings and love.
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Remember, you can get better and you can heal.
And stay positive, setting light and love out there to everyone.
And we will see you next week.
Bye.
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